Re: Plotting USRBDX with one angular bin

From: Giuseppe Battistoni (Giuseppe.Battistoni@mi.infn.it)
Date: Tue Sep 19 2006 - 21:21:37 CEST

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    I can answer:
    the *_tab file was created in order to make life easier to users.
    It replicates the same numbers available in
    the *_sum.lis file, but written in a way that is very very easy to be
    readout from any analysis/graphic program.
    For instance, some of us developed a few root-based tools to readout the
    _tab files in order to produce immediately graphics.

            Giuseppe Battistoni

    On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Alberto Fasso' wrote:

    > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
    > From: Alberto Fasso' <fasso@SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
    > To: Sebastien WURTH <wurth@ipno.in2p3.fr>
    > Cc: fluka-discuss@fluka.org, Paola R. Sala <Paola.Sala@cern.ch>
    > Subject: Re: Plotting USRBDX with one angular bin
    >
    > I know for sure for what concerns the *_sum.lis file, but I don't know about
    > the *_tab.lis file, which is a recent addition (by Paola, I think).
    > Paola, can you answer this question?
    >
    > Alberto
    >
    > On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Sebastien WURTH wrote:
    >
    > > All right, apparently, it was not very clear for me, although I saw it
    > > (the fact that you must not multiply again by 2 pi or 4 pi) by
    > > experience on comparing some USRTRACK an "similar" USRBDX results...
    > > But then with the same example (one angular bin), in the *_tab.lis file
    > > when it says "integrated over solid angle" at the first lign, it refers
    > > to the differential Flux as a function of energy in (Part/GeV/cmq/pr) in
    > > *_sum.lis file, I do have to multiply by each energy bin value to obtain
    > > integrated flux in part/cmq/pr. Am I right this time ?
    > >
    > > Thank you.
    > > Regards.
    > > Sebastien.
    > >
    > > Alberto Fasso' a écrit :
    > >
    > > >Be careful: the manual says that you must multiply by 2 pi or 4 pi,
    > > >but assuming that you do the integration yourself. The usxsuw program
    > > >takes already care of that, so you must not do it again
    > > >
    > > >Alberto
    > > >
    > > >On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Sebastien WURTH wrote:
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >>Hello,
    > > >>
    > > >>In your example, you cannot have a neutron fluence, you put WHAT(2) =
    > > >>7.0 in your first USRBDX card, this would give you photon fluence (maybe
    > > >>you choose only the wrong example to illustrate).
    > > >>To answer your question (I was asking me the same one once), I quote the
    > > >>manual from USRBDX part :
    > > >>*********
    > > >>Notes
    > > >>1. IMPORTANT! The results of a USRBDX boundary crossing estimator are
    > > >>always given as double differential
    > > >>distributions of fluence (or current) in energy and solid angle, in
    > > >>units of cm−2 GeV−1 sr−1 per incident primary,
    > > >>even when only 1 interval (bin) has been requested, which is often the
    > > >>case for angular distributions.
    > > >>Thus, for example, when requesting a fluence or current energy spectrum,
    > > >>with no angular distribution, to
    > > >>obtain integral binned results (fluence or current in cm−2 per energy
    > > >>bin per primary) one must multiply the
    > > >>value of each energy bin by the width of the bin (even for logarithmic
    > > >>binning), and by 2 pi or 4 pi (depending
    > > >>on whether one-way or two-way scoring has been requested).[...]
    > > >>*********
    > > >>
    > > >>Best Regards.
    > > >>Sebastien.
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>Nicole Patricia Lee Pratt-Boyden a écrit :
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>>Hello,
    > > >>>
    > > >>>I'm using a USRBDX card to score neutron fluence (linear angular and
    > > >>>energy bins). The programme seems to be running fine, and I'm compiling
    > > >>>the data with the usxsuw.f programme.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>I asked for eight energy bins, and one angular bin.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>USRBDX 101.0 7.0 -48.0 3.0 4.0 400.0
    > > >>>PH-199m
    > > >>>USRBDX 6.5E-4 2.5E-4 8.0 0.0 1. &
    > > >>>
    > > >>>The *_tab file only returns the differential fluence integrated over
    > > >>>solid angle; there are no double differential values returned at all,
    > > >>>no mention of solid angle boundaries.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Assuming this is fine, do I still need to multiply the differential
    > > >>>values by 2PI (one-way scoring) in order to get diff. fluence in
    > > >>>particles/GeV/cm^2/primary, or do I only do this if I want fluence
    > > >>>(/cm^2/pr)?
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Apologies if this is extremely simple, I was just thrown by the lack of
    > > >>>any information for the double differential! Best regards,
    > > >>>
    > > >>>Nicole Pratt-Boyden.
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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