Re: [fluka-discuss]: Deposited energy

From: Mina Nozar <nozarm_at_triumf.ca>
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:28:02 -0800

Hello everyone,

I think I know where the 71.0219964 MeV comes from. From e+/e-
annihilation and two 0.511 MeV back to back photons.

Best wishes,
Mina


On 13-11-05 11:51 AM, Mina Nozar wrote:
> Dear Emilio,
>
> Thank you very much for your help. Your explanation was clear and I
> understand how EVENDAT works in combination with the SCORE card.
>
> I am writing this for the benefit of others who might come across the
> same problem. 1) I was not able to write out a binary file. 2) the
> results are puzzling.
>
>
> My setup is simple. I have a mono-ergetic positron beam at 70 MeV
> with a flat distribution (1mm x 1mm), incident on an NaI target (r =
> 24 cm, l = 48 cm). Beam is centered on the target. The NaI is
> surrounded by vacuum and the vacuum is surrounded by BLACKHOLE.
>
> Using EVENTDAT card, I was able to write out deposited energy on an
> event by event basis; however, I did not see an option for writing out
> a binary file (at least not through flair). I was only able to
> produce an ASCII file. How does one select a binary file format for
> output?
>
> The manual says:
>
> *WHAT(1) = output unit
> If < 0, the output is unformatted. Values of |WHAT(1)| < 21
> should be avoided (with the exception of +11).
> Default = 11 (standard output)*
>
> In the drop-down list of Logical Units (LU), I didn't see any options
> for choosing a negative number. Is this a bug, a feature, or am I
> missing something?
>
> Anyhow, I picked a bin LU of 25 and wrote out the ASCII file.
>
> I set up 10 runs, each with 200k primaries and combined the generated
> output files from EVENTDAT into one and processed that to look for and
> plot a histogram of the total deposited energy in the NaI. See a
> snapshot of the SCORE and EVENTDAT cards.
>
> The EVENTDAT output file looks like:
>
> ****
> ***** Event-Data ****
> 70 MeV positrons on NaI
> DATE: 11/ 4/13, TIME: 16:13:48
> No. of regions. 3 No. of distr. scored 2
>
> Event # 1
> Primary Weight 1. Primary Energy 0.0710219964 GeV
> Contributions to the energy deposition
> (GeV not normalized to the weight):
> 0. 0.0708008781 1.84126108E-07 0. 5.21420152E-05 0. 0.
> 1.49772841E-05
> 0. 0. 0. 0.000153813118
> Generalized scoring distribution # 211
> from first to last region:
> 3.96721152E-05 0. 0.0708008781
> Generalized scoring distribution #
> 208 < ===== 208 is Deposited Energy
> from first to last region
> 5.21420152E-05 0. 0.07081604 < ===== Third number is DE in NaI
> Seeds after event # 1
> *** 6F38 0 0 0 0 0 53C9
> A5B 0 0***
>
> Event # 2
> Primary Weight 1. Primary Energy 0.0710219964 GeV
> Contributions to the energy deposition
> (GeV not normalized to the weight):
> 0. 0.0692215636 1.38420955E-08 0. 0.00173453416 0. 0.
> 3.26407161E-07
> 0. 0. 0. 6.55581025E-05
> Generalized scoring distribution # 211
> from first to last region:
> 0.00173145905 0. 0.0692215636
> Generalized scoring distribution # 208
> from first to last region:
> 0.00173453416 0. 0.0692219064*
> *...**
> **...**
> *
> The output of my parsed file looks like this (units are still in
> GeV). I didn't need to produce this file for histogram generation but
> did so for checking.
>
> *5.21420152E-05 0. 0.07081604
> 0.00173453416 0. 0.0692219064
> 0.00414068298 0. 0.0668813139
> 0.00056667655 0. 0.0702739432
> 0.000145781378 0. 0.0704984888
> 0.00139258709 0. 0.0696294084
> ...
> ...
> 0. 0. 0.0710219964
> ...
> ...
> **0. 0. 0.0710219964*
> ...
> ...
> *0. 0. 0.0710219964*
>
> As you can see, every few events, I see exactly the same number: i.e.
> 71.0219964 MeV. I am not sure what this corresponds to. How could
> deposited energy be larger than the incident beam energy of 70 MeV?
> And why am I getting the exact same number repeated so frequently? I
> am attaching the histogram of the deposited energy for the 2M primaries.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
> Mina
>
>
>
>
> On 13-10-28 04:31 AM, Emilio Ciuffoli wrote:
>> Dear Mina,
>>
>> I faced a problem very similar to your; however I'm not an expert
>> in Fluka (I started to use it one month ago) and hence my solution
>> probably is not the best one (and, for sure, is not the most elegant
>> one).
>>
>> Using the card EVENTDAT it is possible to save the energy deposited
>> by every single particle in a given volume; from these information
>> you can obtain your histogram. However, if you save the data in the
>> ASCII format, there is a lot of text that can be annoying if you want
>> to use a program to elaborate the data and obtain your plot.
>>
>> You can save your data in a binary file, but in this case you have to
>> write a script in order to read them and to put them in a more
>> accessible format. You have two possibility, at this point:
>>
>> 1) If you don't know the fortran language (like me) you can find an
>> example of a script that reads the bin file in the FLUKA webpage on
>> EVENTDAT <http://www.fluka.org/fluka.php?id=man_onl&sub=32>. I
>> modified this script and my output file now is simply a string with
>> the deposited energy for every event, that I can read with a C++ code
>> or with Matematica in order to obtain the histogram.
>> 2) If you have a better knowledge of the language, you can divide the
>> events in bin directly in the fortran script, writing in the output
>> file the number of events per bin
>>
>> As I said, however, this is definitely not the optimal solution, and
>> I am quite confident that there is a better way.
>>
>> NOTE: technically, the card EVENTDAT gives you much more information:
>> the deposited energy is divided into the energy deposited by
>> ionization, by pair productions ecc... Depending on what you need,
>> you can consider them separately or sum all these contributions; you
>> just have to slightly modify your fortran code.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Emilio Ciuffoli
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/26 Mina Nozar <nozarm_at_triumf.ca <mailto:nozarm_at_triumf.ca>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> What is the best way to look at the spectrum of the deposited
>> energy in a given volume? What I am trying to do is to look at a
>> histogram of the deposited energy.
>>
>> Thank you and best wishes,
>> Mina
>>
>>
>
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