RE: [fluka-discuss]: Dose in a region

From: Thomas Frosio <thomas.frosio_at_cern.ch>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:39:57 +0000

Dear Amor,

Your cobalt source with HI-PROP seems correct.
For sure, using IRRPROFI card allows you to normalize the score with your cobalt source activity and time units.
You just have to convert the GeV.cm^3/g, as detailed by Francesco, in the unit of your choice.

Best regards,
Thomas Frosio

From: Amor Romero <amor1987romero_at_gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:13 AM
To: Francesco Cerutti <Francesco.Cerutti_at_cern.ch>
Cc: Thomas Frosio <thomas.frosio_at_cern.ch>; fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
Subject: Re: [fluka-discuss]: Dose in a region

Hello,

First, I'm thankful to Francesco and Thomas for answering my questions. I attach my input if it could help you to answer my questions about dose per region.

Then, I would like to ask you about the way I'm defining the Cobalt source. Is it correct?

If I used then the IRRPROFI card, do I need normalize the score with the activity of my Cobalt source?



Kind regards,

Amor Romero

El lun., 17 jun. 2019 a las 19:26, Francesco Cerutti (<Francesco.Cerutti_at_cern.ch<mailto:Francesco.Cerutti_at_cern.ch>>) escribió:

Hallo

the output of the USRBIN *per region* is NOT normalized by the region
volume, which is unknown to FLUKA, so, when you ask for DOSE, you will
rather get GeV cm^3/g per primary particle.

See also
http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/10023.html

Kind regards

Francesco

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2019, Thomas Frosio wrote:

>
> Dear Amor,
>
>
>
> I am not sure if I can answer your question without the input data as example.
>
> However, I can give you some hints, but feel free to send your input data if you need further details.
>
>
>
> Regarding your first questions, the differences between your experimental data and FLUKA’s values might
> come from the score normalization per primary or the units of your score:
>
> DOSE score is given in GeV/g per primary particle.
>
> In your case, the primary particle are the nuclear transformations, if you used HI-PROP card to simulate
> your 60Co source.
>
> So, your DOSE score corresponds to deposited energy in GeV/g per disintegration.
>
> You have to normalize this score to the activity of your 60Co source and to convert the GeV/g in J/kg.
>
>
>
> For your second question, it seems in your score you just selected from which volume to score but not the
> ending volume.
>
> The right way to score in a region (TM34060 in your case) is your first example.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas Frosio
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it<mailto:owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it> <owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it<mailto:owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it>> On Behalf Of Amor Romero
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 1:14 PM
> To: fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org<mailto:fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org>
> Subject: [fluka-discuss]: Dose in a region
>
>
>
> Dear fluka/flair experts,
>
>
>
> I'm a beginning user and I am trying to measure the total dose, energy and fluence into a metallic box
> when I use a 60Co source. My geometry is compounding to:
>
> - The real lab dimensions (porland and plaster)
>
> - A simplification of gamma radiator (lead, heavymetal, W... other materials)
>
> - Inside the radiator a recreation of real Co source.
>
> - The lead-aluminium box
>
> - Inside the box: Silicon cylinder with the same size of the real sensor that we have in our box.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to obtain the Dose in the sensor region. When I used this:
>
>
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> USRBIN 12. DOSE -31. TM34060 TM34060
> USRBIN TM34060 &
>
>
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> I obtain a value but it not similiar with the experimental data. Experimental data is arround 600 rad and
> with the fluka simulation we have in the order to mrad.
>
>
>
> And if I use this:
>
>
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> USRBIN 12. DOSE -31.
> USRBIN TM34060 &
>
>
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> I obtain 0.0 E+0
>
>
>
> Could you help me to find a solution?
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> Thank you.
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> Best regards,
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> Amor Romero
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