Re: [fluka-discuss]: Dose rate at a point from Multiple sources

From: Raksha Rajput <rakshak_at_britatom.gov.in>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 15:41:14 +0530 (IST)

Dear Experts,

After running the input as suggested, I am getting the results. The doubts now are:

How to interpret the statistical errors in the result ( 2*87 = 114 bins)? The errors range from 4 % to 21.5 % . How should the errors be compared for different number of primaries ? How to optimize the number of primaries and also no. of cycles ?

I also tried Importance Biasing (three regions are biased, each is divided into 14 regions using Planes i.e., surface splitting) and a factor of 2.2 is used for increasing the importance.
How to compare errors in 'with' and 'without' Bias results. I have attached the .lis files of the results. I have attempted it for the first time. Kindly suggest corrections.Please see the use of Biasing as follows:

#if BIAS
BIASING 0.0 1. BLKBODY _at_LASTREG 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2.2 Sh1 Sh1 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 4.84 Sh2 Sh2 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 10.65 Sh3 Sh3 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 23.43 Sh4 Sh4 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 51.54 Sh5 Sh5 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 113.38 Sh6 Sh6 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 249.44 Sh7 Sh7 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 548.76 Sh8 Sh8 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 1207.27 Sh9 Sh9 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2655.99 Sh10 Sh10 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 5843.18 Sh11 Sh11 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 12855. Sh12 Sh12 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 28281.01 Sh13 Sh13 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 62218.21 Sh14 Sh14 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2.2 A7a A7a 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 4.84 A7b A7b 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 10.65 A7c A7c 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 23.43 A7d A7d 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 51.54 A7e A7e 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 113.38 A7f A7f 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 249.44 A7g A7g 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 548.76 A7h A7h 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 1207.27 A7i A7i 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2655.99 A7j A7j 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 5843.18 A7k A7k 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 12855. A7l A7l 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 28281.01 A7m A7m 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 62218.21 A7n A7n 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2.2 A14a A14a 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 4.84 A14b A14b 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 10.65 A14c A14c 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 23.43 A14d A14d 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 51.54 A14e A14e 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 113.38 A14f A14f 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 249.44 A14g A14g 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 548.76 A14h A14h 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 1207.27 A14i A14i 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 2655.99 A14j A14j 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 5843.18 A14k A14k 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 12855. A14l A14l 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 28281.01 A14m A14m 1.PRINT
BIASING 2. 62218.21 A14n A14n 1.PRINT
#endif

  
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Raksha.



----- Original Message -----
From: "paola sala" <paola.sala_at_mi.infn.it>
To: "Raksha Rajput" <rakshak_at_britatom.gov.in>
Cc: answers_at_pcfluka.mi.infn.it, fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:41:31 PM
Subject: Re: [fluka-discuss]: Dose rate at a point from Multiple sources

Correct!
Paola
> Dear Experts,
>
> Just to confirm: whether the DOSE EQ will give the result in pSv/particle.
> I am scoring in R-Z binning.
> If I need to convert it for one Curie, i need to multiply it by (3.7E+10 *
> 3600) , I will obtain it in pSv/h from one Curie source ?
> Please advise.
> Thanks and regards,
> Raksha.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: answers_at_pcfluka.mi.infn.it
> To: "Raksha Rajput" <rakshak_at_britatom.gov.in>
> Cc: fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [fluka-discuss]: Dose rate at a point from Multiple sources
>
> Hello
> In order to score DOSE-EQ you do not need to define specific regions, and
> it is much better to leave air all around your shield.
> The calculation of DOSE-EQ starts from particle fluences, not from
> deposited energy. Particle fluences are convoluted with conversion factors
> that depend on particle type and energy. The standard conversion
> coefficients in fluka transform particle fluences in ambient dose
> equivalent (H*(10)).
> If you have cylindrical symmetry, You can define a cylindrical USERBIN
> around your shield, with one or more inradial intervals and how many
> longitudinal intervals as you need, then pick up the dose values in the
> bin you need. If you do not have cylindrical symmetry, you can use
> r-phi-z binning, or a cartesian binning.
>
> If you ask for DOSE-EQ, do not put water around, it will absorb the
> radiation and change the dose value.
>
> And, do NOT use the AUXSCORE to select photons only: in reality, the
> photons will produce electrons, that are the particles really depositing
> energy. If you need dose you have to consider electrons. So, no AUXSCORE
> card.
>
> If, instead, you really need dose in water, where dose is defined
> as
> deposited energy/ unit mass
> then ask for DOSE in your region-by-region userbin.
> AND do NOT use the AUXSCORE card, otherwise you will miss almost all
> the deposited energy, because it is deposited by secondary electrons.
> Photons do not deposit energy directly, it only happens in the simulation
> because there are transport thresholds: photons below threshold
> stop and their energy is counted as deposited there.
>
> Hope this helps
> Paola
>
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Raksha Rajput wrote:
>
>> Dear Experts,
>>
>> I have a cylindrical source cage, with Co-60 cylindrical source at 25
>> positions, equidistant. I wish to calculate dose at different points on
>> the
>> surface of the lead shielding. How should I calculate the dose rate at a
>> point ? Presently I am scoring USRBIN/DOSE-EQ with AUXSCORE/PHOTON in
>> SPH
>> bodies of 5 cm radius, touching the surface of my shielding flask.
>>
>> Referring to the link below, I got answers to my questions but only for
>> point no.5, please throw some more light, or suggest the specific
>> options in
>> the USRBIN card. 
>> https://pcfluka.mi.infn.it/FLUKA/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/159
>> 80.html
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Raksha.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Paola Sala
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