RE: [fluka-discuss]: Geometry Error

From: <me_at_marychin.org>
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:26:01 +0100 (BST)

Dear Hayley,

Do you have flair? This would be most helpful:
https://www.fluka.org/free_download/course/nea2013/Lectures/06_Geometry_Editor.pdf
refer to the part on 'zone editing'. You can redefine your 'void' region
interactively by selecting the relevant bodies; the possible combinations will
automatically get highlighted as you hover around. Just select the highlighted
zone you want; then repeat for all zones. Your 'void' region will then compose
of zones, not expansions which go out of control.

> only bodies can be subtracted, rather than regions
*You are right.

> I tried making multiple voids, but this just propagated the expansion problem
> up to the black body.
*That's because you are still thinking in terms of 'subtracting regions', this
idea then gets translated to many expansions. If we think in terms of 'zones' we
can use the bodies to define a collection of zones. Please look up 'zones' in
the online resources. The latest fluka course material can be found on
www.fluka.org: select 'Courses' from the side menu, then select 'Course Website'
for the most recently completed course ('Paris 2013' for now, 'Dresden 2013' in
the very near future), then select 'Program' from the side menu. On the
timetable the pdf for all lectures are available.

:) mary

On 05 October 2013 at 15:52 hayley.smith_at_stfc.ac.uk wrote:
> Dear Mary
>
> Thank you very much for your reply.
>
> I understand that the way I have this defined is making a lot of expansions
> and can see this in the output files.
> However, I am struggling to see how this can be simplified, as you suggest.
>
> From what I understand, only bodies can be subtracted, rather than regions. So
> I struggled to simplify in this sense. In the future my geometry will require
> twenty of these regions defined by planes, so the expansion would be even
> worse. In your experience what would you suggest as a simplification tactic?
>
> I tried making multiple voids, but this just propagated the expansion problem
> up to the black body. I think I am still missing some important concepts.
>
> Thanks for any further help you can give,
> Hayley
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it [owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it] on
> behalf of me_at_marychin.org [me_at_marychin.org]
> Sent: 04 October 2013 17:00
> To: Smith, Hayley (STFC,RAL,ISIS); fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
> Subject: Re: [fluka-discuss]: Geometry Error
>
> Dear Hayley,
>
> The culprit is in the region definition of VOID. Too many expansions; fluka
> crashes. The debugger works by calling a 'dry' fluka run. So even if you do
> not use the debugger, fluka still will not run. To solve the problem you can
> simplify that line of region definition for VOID (which can be easily done
> using the geometry editor in flair).
>
> :) mary
>
> On 02 October 2013 at 13:49 hayley.smith_at_stfc.ac.uk wrote:
> Dear FLUKA users
>
> I am a relatively new user and have been having some difficulties creating the
> geometry for my current problem.
>
> I have an assembly of twenty graphite blocks, none of which are cubes. Each
> block has at least one slanted face. I have been trying to create these by
> using the generic infinite planes and combining these to describe individual
> blocks as regions. (From what I have read using PLA is the best tool for
> this?)
>
> I am able to create, debug and plot the geometry for individual blocks.
> However, when I wish to debug and plot the geometry of multiple blocks at once
> the debug routine slows down dramatically, and in the case of wanting to debug
> more than four of these blocks I receive the error “ERROR RC=34304”.
>
> I have been trying for a number of days to figure out my problem but have now
> run out of ideas. The geometry does not seem complex to me, so I was surprised
> that I encountered such an error. Am I asking too much of the memory
> capabilities? (I am working in Flair on FLUPIX with the standard installation
> settings as advised on the website).
>
> I have already tried to implement some ideas from the thread
> http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/5131.html however
> I haven’t had any luck, and can’t really see if my problem is even the same as
> the problem in that thread.
>
> I attach my input file, showing just a few of these blocks for which the debug
> crashes, in case it is required for further understanding of my problem.
> I am convinced I must be doing something significantly wrong, but am just not
> able to see it…
>
> Many thanks for any insight you are able to give
>
> Hayley
>
>
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