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From: Fasso, Alberto(B <fasso_at_slac.stanford.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:25:54 +0000

Refraction is a wave phenomenon (interference between Huygens wavelets at the surface of a medium). As I said,
FLUKA does not simulate scattering of photons as waves, but as particles. Rayleigh scattering in FLUKA is just elastic scattering
of photon particles

Alberto

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Dear Alberto$B!$(B
  According to you$B!$(BFLUKA handles photons as particles$B!$(Bthe Rayleigh or coherent scattering is included. So the refraction of photons at (steep) interfaces of different materials should be observed. Please see the paper attached, the phase contrast at the material interface are explained by refraction, which causes the intensity modulation phenomenon at the interface. Why can not we see the same phenomenon in the Fluka simulation? The attachments are my input file and the result.

Best Regards
Chen Yuan



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?Phase contrast imaging is based on wave behaviour of photons (interference and diffraction). FLUKA handles photons only as particles, so it cannot simulate x-ray phase contrast imaging?. For the same reason, FLUKA can simulate wigglers, but not undulators


Alberto


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Dear Mikhail$B!$(B

  Thank you for your reply.Can Fluka simulate x-ray phase contrast imaging? If it can,How should I do?

Best Regards

Chen Yuan

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On 30.12.2014 16:13, shaogch_at_mail.ustc.edu.cn<mailto:shaogch_at_mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:

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Dear Fluka users$B!'(B

   When I use X-ray to irradiate target,the transmittance F2/F1(F2 is the flux density from the target and F1 is the flux density from the vacuum) is smaller than the transmittance estimated from NIST website(http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/chap2.html) .Why does this happen? The primary X-ray energy is 10 keV.The production and transport cutoff I set for photon is 100 eV. The production and transport cutoff I set for electron is 1 keV. The attachments are my input file and output file.Please have a look at it.In a word,I don't know why the transmittance from fluka(about 50%) do not agree with NIST(about 97%).

   On the other hand,When I see my output file,it shows the following warning:

 **** Warning!!! Least square fit for blccra failed to keep max. rel. Blcc err. below 1% ****
 **** Max. error is 21.8 %, for beta2 = 0.03260 ****

 ZTILDE,AE1O3,BLCCRA= 1.20779E+01 2.08102E+00 1.52566E-02

 **** Warning!!! Least square fit for blccre failed to keep max. rel. Blcce err. below 1% ****
 **** Max. error is 5.3 %, for beta2 = 0.00358 ****

What does this warning mean? Does it will affect the fluence scored by the usrbin detector? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Best Regards

Chen Yuan



Dear Chen Yuan,

In your COMPOUND cards the "Mix" is set as atoms, but "f1" and "f3" are fractions of 1. like volume or mass.
Are you sure that your mix is correct?

If "Mix:" set as mass the result in attachment.


Best regards,
Mikhail





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