Re: [fluka-discuss]: user biasing using usimbs.f *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room, in Emf stack ***

From: Mina Nozar <nozarm_at_triumf.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:20:38 -0700

Hi Vittorio,

I am sorry, I don't understand your message.

Do you mean you think I might be doing splitting and RR at the same
time? How could this be?

 From the advanced course slides, I see:
"The Russian Roulette / Splitting will take place at the middle (defined
by the ENTRY) of the step. "

The same routine seems to be working for the proton beam on the target.
So it is an issue with the electron beam. But I don't know how to go
about investigating this. Can one of the experts/developers help
please? I am stuck.

Thank you,
Mina


On 15-04-23 01:45 PM, Vittorio Boccone wrote:
> HI Mina,
> I see you might Importance biasing and RR.
> Beware that the Russian Roulette massacre happens in the middle
> (defined by the ENTRY) of the steps, and not on a fixed region
> boundary (as the importance factor you defined in your previous mail)
>
> It would be nice to see your custom usimbs.f
>
> Best,
> Vittorio
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Mina Nozar <nozarm_at_triumf.ca
> <mailto:nozarm_at_triumf.ca>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mario.
>
> But I don't think I have been too aggressive in the biasing.
>
> I start biasing 1 meter from the center of the target (RMIN = 100
> cm) and bias by a factor of 2 every 35 cm (RINC) until R = 800 cm
> (RMAX). See attached image. This is what I print in the output
> file (for lfirst).
>
> ****** usimbs CALLED *****
> AETE_Cx -1278.
> AETE_Cy 8183.88
> AETE_Cz 5948.
> DMIN_IMP 0.0001
> RMIN 100.
> RMAX 800.
> RINC 35.
> 1 99999 99999 0.0000000E+00
> 1.0000000E+30 0
> NEXT SEEDS: E9 0 0 0 0 0 C6AD
> 2A4C 0 0
> 2000 98000 98000 5.6441402E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 133
> NEXT SEEDS: 2C8E4A 0 0 0 0 0 C6AD
> 2A4C 0 0
> 4000 96000 96000 5.5066633E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 255
> NEXT SEEDS: 57629D 0 0 0 0 0 C6AD
> 2A4C 0 0*
> ...
> ...
>
> In the .err file, I see:
>
>
> *NEXT SEEDS: 0 0 0 0 0 0 C6AD
> 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 1 99999 99999 0.0000000E+00
> 1.0000000E+30 0 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: E9 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 2000 98000 98000 5.7591248E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 133 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 2C8E4A 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 4000 96000 96000 5.6066513E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 255 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 57629D 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 6000 94000 94000 5.9057713E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 409 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 8987D8 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 8000 92000 92000 5.9815907E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 530 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: B9BD7F 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 10000 90000 90000 6.0090866E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 666 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: E9782F 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 12000 88000 88000 6.2340530E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 808 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 120B7BB 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 14000 86000 86000 6.2054852E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 939 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 14F66E4 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** 16000 84000 84000 6.1765611E-04
> 1.0000000E+30 1058 **
> ** NEXT SEEDS: 17DC3F2 0 0 0 0 0
> C6AD 2A4C 0 0**
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
> ** in Emf stack *****
> ** *** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room *
> *...**
> **...*
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mina
>
>
>
> On 15-04-22 02:31 PM, Santana, Mario wrote:
>> From the message, and given that you were setting importances via
>> usimbs.f, it seems that you have gone too aggressive in the
>> biasing and you have filled the emf stack.
>>
>> This means that you set a step biasing split that was much bigger
>> than the attenuation for your electrons and photons through your
>> shielding. As a result, the population of electrons and photons
>> was growing larger every step, and you filled the memory.
>>
>> Reduce the parameter by which you bias. Normally you would want
>> to set that parameter so that the population of your particles of
>> interest stays more or less constant.
>>
>> - Mario
>>
>> From: Mina Nozar <nozarm_at_triumf.ca <mailto:nozarm_at_triumf.ca>>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:36 PM
>> To: fluka-discuss <fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
>> <mailto:fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org>>
>> Subject: [fluka-discuss]: user biasing using usimbs.f *** Doeimb:
>> importance splitting not performed for missing room, in Emf stack ***
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have been trying to do biasing via usimbs.f. It has taken me
>> few days of trial and error. I think I have fixed few issues
>> (one of which resulted in a core dump).
>>
>> Now, I am seeing the following message repeated ad nauseam in the
>> .err file. What does this message mean and how can I go about
>> fixing it?
>>
>> *
>> ***** Doeimb: importance splitting not performed for missing room **
>> ** in Emf stack ****
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mina
>
>



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