Re: RE: [fluka-discuss]: A bug for EWT74

From: 杨博 <b-yang12_at_mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:21:37 +0800 (GMT+08:00)

Dear stefan

 

     Thanks for your comments, Now I konw what happen for my situation,but I found there is an obvious inconsistency of dose conversion factor between FLUKA and ICRP74(ICRP116)for low energy photon. For example, for photon energy of 0.01MeV and ROT geometry, the effective dose per unit fluence provided by ICRP 116 is 0.0337 pSv*cm2, the effective dose per air kerma and air kerma per unit fluence provided by ICRP74 are 0.00326 Sv/Gy and 7.43 pGy*cm2,respectively and their product is 0.0242pSv*cm2. However, from FIG.12 in http://info-fluka-discussion.web.cern.ch/info-fluka-discussion/download/deq2.pdf, the effective dose per unit fluence provided by FLUKA is 5~7pSv *cm2. I don't why there is a such big difference between FLUKA and ICRP reports , dose conversion factor from ICRP166 and FLUKA were attached. Thank you so much.

 

Best regards

 

Bo Yang



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发件人: "Stefan Roesler" <Stefan.Roesler_at_cern.ch>
发送时间: 2015-09-20 04:06:53 (星期日)
收件人: "杨博" <b-yang12_at_mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>, "fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org" <fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org>
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主题: RE: [fluka-discuss]: A bug for EWT74


Dear Bo Yang

If you score photon fluence in logarithmic bins you will see that below ~20keV the fluence in case of PE is much larger than in case of Al.

At the same time the conversion coefficient from fluence to effective dose is strongly increasing towards low energy below about 50keV, see Fig.12 in

http://info-fluka-discussion.web.cern.ch/info-fluka-discussion/download/deq2.pdf

Note that the conversion coefficient for photons used at low energies is air kerma, due to lack of a better coefficient at the time when the routine was developed (maybe better coefficients for effective dose and low energy photons exist now).

Thus the combined effect of a higher fluence for PE and a strongly increasing conversion coefficient causes the effect that you see.

btw, Fig 12 in the above note also shows the conversion coefficient for ambient dose equivalent which drops to zero below 10keV (due to the definition of ambient dose equivalent), thus simply cancels the larger photon fluence at low energy for PE.

Cheers
Stefan





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Sent: 19 September 2015 12:15
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Subject: [fluka-discuss]: A bug for EWT74



Hi,every fluka user:

    Rencently,I keep trying to simulate the process of electron with monoenergy of 3MeV hitting Al and PE target with same thickness of 1mm and score the forward photon dose-eq and photon spectrum by USRBDX and AUXSCORE. I found that with the dose conversion factor of EWT74 the dose-eq (1.683E-4 psv/prim) generated by PE target is larger than that (1.179E-4 psv/prim) genrated by Al Target, while with the entry of AMB74 the dose-eq (1.088E-4 psv/prim) generated by Al target is larger than that (4.119E-5 psv/prim) genrated by PE Target and from the photon spectrum, the photon number generated by Al is more than that generated by PE in the all energy range as attached. I checked and rechecked my inputfile and no error was found ,I thick there is a bug existed for EWT74,and hope someone can pay attention to it and help me solve this qusestion because I have to doubt if the previous work using EWT74 is corrected , Thank you so much, the input file and orginal results was attached.

 

Best regards

 

Bo yang










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