Re: [fluka-discuss]: scoring emission products of unstable isotopes in YSO

From: Milena Quittnat <milena.eleonore.quittnat_at_cern.ch>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:59:25 +0000

Dear FLUKA discuss,

as I did not get any answer until now, I would like to shorten up my questions, in case they were just too simple or too many:

When I am scoring the deposited energy of electrons or positrons, I am getting rather high results.
I attached the corresponding plot to this mail.
I understood that this is the deposited energy of my whole particle flux of 8E9 protons/s as I am assigning a cooling time, e.g.:
* score dep Energy for electrons
USRBIN 10. ENERGY -71. 1.25 1.25 15.depEeI
USRBIN -1.25 -1.25 0. 1. 1. 15. &
DCYSCORE 2. depEeI USRBIN
AUXSCORE USRBIN ELECTRON depEeI

My question would be why the energy deposition for electrons and positrons is that high compared to photons.
Does the energy deposition also include the mass of the electrons?
Thank you very much for your help
Milena Quittnat


On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Milena Quittnat <milena.eleonore.quittnat_at_cern.ch<mailto:milena.eleonore.quittnat_at_cern.ch>> wrote:

Dear FLUKA discuss,

as the answer to a previous problem was incredibly helpful, I am hoping for some more help with the following issue:

I try to score the energy emitted by unstable isotopes in an YSO crystal during irradiation.
As Yttrium has a large cross section for thermal neutron capture (1.3 barn), it might produce a prohibitive background to the general light output, a "constant noise".
My goal is to score the de-excitation- and decay-products of the created isotopes, mainly the emitted photons and the (overall) deposited energy.
With this information I would like to study if the isotopes, e.g. the emitted gamma rays, induce further scintillation.

I attached my input file, please don't mind the other crystals placed behind the 15 cm YSO crystal, they are part of the experimental irradiation setup.

My questions would be:
- Do I set the right values for the RADDECAY card? Shall I enable some biasing features in order to increase the statistics for the decay products?
- Does "prompt radiation" in the RADDECAY card solely refer to the EM-shower or does it also include photons emitted by the unstable isotopes? I currently suppress it as I am just interested in the decay radiation.

- I do not fully understand the precision default: in the manual, it says "heavy fragment transport activated". Are protons and light isotopes scored at the end of their path?
Does it correspond to the "heavy ion transport" with the card IONTRANS?

- As I said, I would like to know the deposited energy from the created isotopes. Both, the overall deposited energy and the EM energy (BIN 70/71), associated with a cooling time, give rather high results (ca. 4e6 GeV/cm^3/p).
Where is my mistake?
- I also tried to score the deposited energy created by the Yttrium isotopes (unit 81) only, but I guess the information is not directly accessible?
When I am scoring the residual nuclei, I have a high amount of Yttrium isotopes, e.g. Y86 which changes to Sr86 electron capture and β+ decay.
Above all, I am not necessarily interested from which isotope the emitted photons or the deposited energy come from, but from the total amount produced.

- If I score the photons with USRTRACK without a cooling time associated, do I just score the "prompt" photons of the EM shower and no "secondary" produced ones? That would explain why my "UTrkPh" (BIN 92) is empty.

- Did I understood correctly that the EMF cut accounts also for decay particles? Would you recommend a special biasing with "EMF-Bias" for my problem?



I would also like to understand how the photon emission, metastable isotopes and de-exciation processes are handled in FLUKA.
For instance how is the photon emission in a Co60 decay described in FLUKA?
Are photons, emitted by an isomeric transmission, included when I score the photon fluence or not?
In a FLUKA discuss thread I read that the excited state of an isotope itself is not scored, but what is about the emitted energy?
It would be wonderful if you could give me a short explanation or guide me to a paper.

Thank you very much for your help, I am looking forward to the replies!
Sincerely yours,
Milena Quittnat
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