RE: [fluka-discuss]: DOSE-EQ normalization, isotropic source, energy spectrum on the geometry

From: Szymczyk Karol <Karol.Szymczyk_at_ncbj.gov.pl>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:50:43 +0000

Dear Andrea
Thank you very much for your response.
It confirmed me, that simulations and the source.f works correctly, -now I can continue my work.

Referring to the concerns that you noticed:
I got energy spectrum distribution from my colleagues, wherein the amount of the particles was expressed in N / cm ^ 3 / s.
(detector like a sheet of thickness 1 cm)

I tried to calculate the Energy spectrum using the voxels (1cm^3) using URSTRACK.
In the USRTRACK manual
http://www.fluka.org/fluka.php?id=man_onl&sub=89
there is an information that:
-the volume of the detector in cm**3,
-the results of the energy spectrum are normalized to cm**2.

There is a comparison between the USRBDX and USRTRACK in the Lectures about Scoring:
http://www.fluka.org/content/course/NEA/lectures/Scoring.pdf
(slajd 15)
"remember: USRBDX scores on a surface, while USRBIN scores Fluence in volumes and gives no differential information"

The results in my simulations are quite the same :USRTRACK (detector like a sheet of thickness 1 cm) , and USRBDX (surface)

Based on this information I realized that I could simplify the reasoning, and use the surface as a source spectrum (instead of the voxels).
Am I right?

This is exactly one more question, but I understand (from the lactures and tests), that my simplification is correct.

Thank you for any comments.

Best regards, and thank you one more time for help.

Karol Szymczyk

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From: Andrea Fontana [andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 10:11 PM
To: Szymczyk Karol; fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
Subject: Re: [fluka-discuss]: DOSE-EQ normalization, isotropic source, energy spectrum on the geometry

Dear Karol,
       I have tested your sourcetest.f routine and I was able to reproduce
your results regarding the initial position sampling (looking at
the screenshots) and also the generated spectrum seems to follow well
the spectrum.dat file. Also regarding the angular distribution your
algorithm
seems to work well and reproduces a isotropic source on the +z half sphere.

So your source.f routine is ok in my opinion.

Regarding the normalization, since in your source you sample one photon
per time, the result is normalized per photon: therefore you should
multiply by the surface and by your fluence rate.

However I do not understand your units particle/cm^3/s: why cm^3,
shouldn't be cm^2? In this case the normalization that you suggest
is correct.

I hope this helps and I look forward to your reply.
Kind regards,
Andrea



Il 08/02/2017 15:51, Szymczyk Karol ha scritto:
>
> Dear Fluka experts
>
> My issue is to implement the isotropic source with energy spectrum on
> the geometry-flat surface (like ROCA function, but for the flat
> surface, not sphere)
>
>
> My input is the energy spectrum from the front of the chamber(the unit
> in column 2 are particle/cm^3/s)
>
>
> -I use part of the 'well known', user routine source.f ,(course in
> Athens) to implement the Energy spectrum.
>
> http://www.fluka.org/fluka.php?id=course&sub=program&navig=2&which=demokritos2009
> <http://www.fluka.org/fluka.php?id=course&sub=program&navig=2&which=demokritos2009>
>
>
> -I used a isotropic source, with z ditribution Z+
>
>
> https://pcfluka.mi.infn.it/FLUKA/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/9628.html
>
>
> -I randomizesd the position of a particle on a designed area
>
>
> It is working well (in my opinion)!
>
>
> Firstly I would like to kindly ask you, if this kind of source.f
> routine is ok, in your opinion?
>
>
> Secondly ,the main problem is to well normalize the results.
>
> Main main issiu is to calculate the Dose EQ in the area around the target.
>
> To calculate the DOSE-EQ, I need the real number of preliminary
> particles/s.
>
> -My input has totaly 603 particle/cm^3/s (just an example)
>
> -source surface is 60cm*60cm
>
>
> Should I multiply the DOSE-EQ results by the source surface area, and
> totaly nymer of particle/cm^3/s (603 particles)?, or should I do
> somethig else.
>
>
> You are more then welcome to open my attached files.
>
> I am looking forward for any suggestions.
>
>
> Best regards.
> Karol Szymczyk

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