Re: USRBDX Plot isn't seem Realistic for Scintillator ? need an advice...
dear vahan,
the problem now is that you set, as suggested, an absorption coefficient,
however you chose a value that is much too large! With that, 99.8% of the
photons are absorbed (the value in what(2) is in cm-1 : the inverse of the
mean path length...). I tried with 1.0, and I got photons ut. Clearly, if
you wish to estimate in a quantitative way how many photons you have, you
should find out what is the correct value for your material.
Then: you saw only the scintillation photons (again) because the cherenkov
and trd are much less, none of them managed to go out.
About the usyield: it does give results. As you set it now, it gives again
en energy spectrum, integrated over all angles. Is this what you wanted?
If you want an angular distribution you should revert the scoring
quantities. If you want energy over such a wide interval, consider using
log intervals.
In any case, I suggest you to have a look at the scoring lecture in one of
the course programs from the website, and read carefully the manual
Ciao
Paola
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> Many Thanks Paola! Your answer was complete and clear.
>
> I tried to implement your advices and got more reasonable plots.
>
> But the same issue remained: I set refractive index , and absorption
> coefficient to the material but I didn't get optical photons with other
> energies.
> I get the same radiation picture ie. only one strict line. why? (I am
> not sure that set Chernenkov and Transition radiation cards properly)
>
> I also tried to implement USRYIELD card but I get as a result all zeroes.
>
> I am attaching my modified files If you have time please take a look.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> On 31.01.2013 17:50, Paola Sala wrote:
>> Hello
>> let's start from the easy thing.. yes , the "fraction of deposited
>> energy"
>> is what you write.
>>
>>
>> The optical photon spectrum that you get is the scintillation line that
>> you asked for,550nm wavelength .
>> You do not see cherenkov and transition radiation because you did not
>> assign any refraction index to the target material: the OPT-PROP card
>> in
>> your input has the value of the ref. index, but does NOT have the
>> material
>> to which it belongs. As a consequence, you had n=1 everywhere- > no
>> cherenkov, no transition radiation.
>>
>> Be careful: if you now define correctly the refraction index, you should
>> also define either an absorption coefficient or some absorbing surface,
>> otherwise you risk that the optical photons will be confined inside your
>> target like in a light guide, will not be absorbed, and the simulation
>> will last forever.
>>
>> I see also some other details in the input file:
>> - the optical photons in fluka have nothing to do with "standard"
>> photons,
>> so it is meaningless to decrease the transport threshold of photons to
>> cover the visible spectrum. Besides, the cartd for photon threshold is
>> EMFCUT, not PART-THRES. The transport energy limits for optical photons
>> are set with OPT-PROP.
>> Similarly, they do not undergo nuclear interactions, the PHOTONUC card
>> is
>> irrelevant for your case.
>>
>> Also, the use of 500 bins in the usrbdx angular distribution seems to me
>> a
>> bit excessive. Be also careful to one thing: The angle in USRBDX is the
>> angle between the direction of the particle and the normal to the
>> scoring
>> surface. In your case, you are using as a surface a tilted box, so the
>> "angle" will be refereed to different "normals" depending on which face
>> of
>> the box is the exiting one. If you want to have an angular distribution
>> with respect to the beam, you should use the USRYIELD card,
>>
>> Hope this helps
>> Paola
>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I try to get OPTICAL light output vs. angle when electron beam hits
>>> scintillator. I get strange results. I get optical photons only on ONE
>>> energy that corresponds to the green light!
>>> It shouldn't be so strict, ie. only one line, there should be
>>> photons
>>> with other energies also and peak on that energy.
>>> Can you take a look if you have time? (what I may miss or did wrong)
>>>
>>> I am little confused about WHAT(2) ("fraction of deposited energy
>>> going into
>>> i-th scin. photon emission") parameter of OPT-PROD( sdum SCINT-WV ).
>>> How can one calculate it?
>>> I supposed formula Luminosity[ph/ev]*Energy(peak emission)[ev], am
>>> I
>>> right?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I am attaching my files
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Paola Sala
>> INFN Milano
>> tel. Milano +39-0250317374
>> tel. CERN +41-227679148
>>
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Paola Sala
INFN Milano
tel. Milano +39-0250317374
tel. CERN +41-227679148
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