Re: [fluka-discuss]: trying to simulate hadronic interaction and e.m. dissociation in heavy ions collisions

From: Paola Sala <paola.sala_at_mi.infn.it>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 09:34:27 +0100

Dera Mauro,
are you sure that you linked the heavy ions event generators (ldpm3qmd)?
Your output events are too simple to be leed-lead collisions at 7TeV!
looks like they only perform EM dissociation, no inelastic interactions.
Paola
>
> Dear Fluka experts,
> following an old discussions concerning the production of spectator
> neutrons in heavy ions collisions, I wrote a simple user routine usrein.f
> (in attachment together with the input file) which should write the
> kinematics properties of the particles generated in the collision.
>
> Looking to the output from usrein.f, I see that there are no
> neutrons emitted in the forward direction with a momentum value close
> to that of the nucleons of the colliding nuclei).
> Experimentally we see them with a Zero Degree Calorimeter.
>>From the output I can see the two residual nuclei and also some neutrons
> but with a momentum value around 13 GeV/c, no neutrons with momentum
> around 2760 GeV/c, neither nuclear fragments in the case of hadronic
> interaction (see in the last attachment a sample of the output from
> usrein.f).
> What could be the reason?
> Thanks in advance
> Mauro
>
> Mauro Gallio
> Dip. di Fisica
> Via P. Giuria,1
> 10125 Torino (Italy)
> phone : +39 011 6707361
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, Francesco Cerutti wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Mauro
>>
>> continuation cards must still start with the card name (SPECSOUR in this
>> case)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Francesco
>>
>> **************************************************
>> Francesco Cerutti
>> CERN-EN/STI
>> CH-1211 Geneva 23
>> Switzerland
>> tel. +41 22 7678962
>> fax +41 22 7668854
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, Mauro Gallio wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I forgot the attachment!!
>>> Sorry
>>> Mauro
>>>
>>>
>>> Mauro Gallio
>>> Dip. di Fisica
>>> Via P. Giuria,1
>>> 10125 Torino (Italy)
>>> phone : +39 011 6707361
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:47:26 +0100 (CET)
>>> From: Mauro Gallio <gallio_at_to.infn.it>
>>> To: Francesco Cerutti <Francesco.Cerutti_at_cern.ch>
>>> Cc: Alfredo Ferrari <alfredo.ferrari_at_cern.ch>,
>>> Trinh Ngoc-Duy <Ngoc-Duy.Trinh_at_ganil.fr>,
>>> "fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org" <fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [fluka-discuss]: Error OBSOLETE CODEWORD trying to
>>> simulate
>>> Pb-Pb
>>> at LHC
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Fluka expert,
>>> Following the suggestion of Alfredo Ferrari,I tried to insert a very
>>> simple
>>> dummy geometry following the example exfixed.inp (which runs without
>>> errors). The input file is in attachment.
>>> I'm interested essentially in the collision physics, for the moment.
>>>
>>> The program still crashes with the same error OBSOLETE CODEWORD.
>>> The command which runs the progam and the corresponding output follows:
>>> [gallio_at_alz117xl fluka]$ ./rfluka -e flukadpm3 -M1 gene0
>>> $TARGET_MACHINE = Linux
>>> $FLUPRO = /usr/local/fluka
>>>
>>> Initial seed copied from /usr/local/fluka
>>> Running fluka in /home/gallio/fluka/fluka_24860
>>>
>>> ======================= Running FLUKA for cycle # 1
>>> =======================
>>> ./rfluka: line 359: 24887 Aborted (core dumped)
>>> "${EXE}" <
>>> "$INPN" 2> "$LOGF" > "$LOGF"
>>>
>>> Any hint about the error?
>>> Thanks
>>> Mauro
>>>
>>>
>>> Mauro Gallio
>>> Dip. di Fisica
>>> Via P. Giuria,1
>>> 10125 Torino (Italy)
>>> phone : +39 011 6707361
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Francesco Cerutti wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note in addition that, despite the dedicated PHYSICS card, you did not
>>>> activate electromagnetic-dissociation, to that purpose you need
>>>> WHAT(1)=2.0
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Francesco
>>>>
>>>> **************************************************
>>>> Francesco Cerutti
>>>> CERN-EN/STI
>>>> CH-1211 Geneva 23
>>>> Switzerland
>>>> tel. +41 22 7678962
>>>> fax +41 22 7668854
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Alfredo Ferrari wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... you must have a valid geometry in your input, even a dummy one.
>>>>> If not the code revert to the 30 year old cylindrical geometry which
>>>>> do no longer exists and prints that message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alfredo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>> | Alfredo Ferrari || Tel.: +41.22.76.76119
>>>>> |
>>>>> | CERN-EN/STI || Fax.: +41.22.76.69474
>>>>> |
>>>>> | 1211 Geneva 23 || e-mail: Alfredo.Ferrari_at_cern.ch
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Switzerland ||
>>>>> |
>>>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Mauro Gallio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Trinh,
>>>>>> unfortunately I downloaded exactly the last version from the
>>>>>> official
>>>>>> site:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fluka2011.2c-linuxAA.tar.gz
>>>>>> FLUKA Package Version 2011.2c-6 5th of June, 2017 147 MB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there an other repository for the last version?
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Mauro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mauro Gallio
>>>>>> Dip. di Fisica
>>>>>> Via P. Giuria,1
>>>>>> 10125 Torino (Italy)
>>>>>> phone : +39 011 6707361
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Trinh Ngoc-Duy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Mauro,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first guess is that your Fluka version is out of date. Please
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> latest version Fluka2011.2c.6 (June 2017).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your faithfully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duy, GANIL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>> De : owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it
>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-fluka-discuss_at_mi.infn.it]
>>>>>>> De la part de Mauro Gallio
>>>>>>> Envoyé : Friday, November 03, 2017 2:57 PM
>>>>>>> À : fluka-discuss_at_fluka.org
>>>>>>> Objet : [fluka-discuss]: Error OBSOLETE CODEWORD trying to
>>>>>>> simulate
>>>>>>> Pb-Pb at
>>>>>>> LHC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Fluka experts,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am interested in relativistic heavy ions collisions at LHC. In
>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>> I would like to simulate the formation of nuclear fragments and the
>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>> of free spectator neutrons and protons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I downloaded the fluka version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -  Fluka2011.2c (October 2014) released on: October 15th 2014 and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> installed fluka on a Linux Desktop with SLC4 (gcc and g77 version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.4.6)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried to run the executable flukadpm3 with a simple .inp data
>>>>>>> cards
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> attachment, but I got the following message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ******** !!!!!!! OBSOLETE CODEWORD    !!!!!!! ********
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (see the output file in the second attachment).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did not implement any geometry, since I am interested for the
>>>>>>> moment
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> in the collision tape.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Mauro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mauro Gallio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dip. di Fisica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Via P. Giuria,1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10125 Torino (Italy)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> phone : +39 011 6707361
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>


Paola Sala
INFN Milano
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