Hi Viktor,
from the output file you can get this report about the optical
photons generated in your material:
Number of optical photon interactions per beam particle
Prompt radiation Radioactive decays
9.9260E+03 (100.%) 0.0000E+00 (100.%)
8.0750E+03 (81.4%) 0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) absorptions
1.8510E+03 (18.6%) 0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) diffusions
0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) 0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) escapes
0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) 0.0000E+00 ( 0.0%) time-kill
Andrea
Il 25/02/2017 09:33, Віктор Родін ha scritto:
> Dear Andrea,
> Thank you for your test. I will take this into account. Also I want to
> draw your attention on such thing. Primary optical photons have
> energy(20 eV) greater than energetic boundaries of material( 1 -10 eV)
> for propagation of optical photons and it looks like they will be
> absorbed in the material but i'm not confident in that. What are they
> doing in reality?
> Best regards,
> Viktor
>
> 2017-02-24 23:48 GMT+02:00 Andrea Fontana <andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>>:
>
> Hello Viktor,
> I have tested your method for generating secondary optical photons
> with an arbitrary spectrum with the WVLNSH user routine: in essence,
> if I understand correctly, you propose to mimick a wavelength shifter
> to generate optical photons with a given spectrum in a material.
>
> This might work, but I feel this is not the intended use for the
> routine and I see at least 2 limitations that might take you
> into trouble:
>
> - you are limited to a maximum of 10 secondary photons, given
> by the sizeof the relevant arrays used internally
> by FLUKA. So you do not gain much compared to the 3 lines
> allowed by the standard Fluka interface;
>
> - you have to take care of the energy conservation by hand:
> for example, you have to make sure that the total energy of the
> secondaries does not exceed the energy of the primary photon.
> If this condition occurs ( SECONDARY E > INITIAL E ), Fluka will
> abort the run.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Andrea
>
>
> Il 21/02/2017 22:31, Віктор Родін ha scritto:
>
> Dear Andrea,
> I found a way how to reproduce more than 3 monochromatic
> photons. It looks strange and I'm not sure it's correct but I
> have spectrum of more than 3 lines. I've done it with help of
> the WVLNSH routine. Also I have strange values in USRTRACK on
> Y axis but it's not scary. Output file gives me normal number
> of the created photons. Could you comment this method?I've
> attached my inp file and WVLNSH routine.
> Best regards,
> Viktor
>
> 2017-02-21 15:34 GMT+02:00 Andrea Fontana
> <andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>>>:
>
>
> Hi Viktor,
> for scintillation light in FLUKA, for the moment, only
> monochromatic
> photons are considered, with a maximum of 3 different lines.
>
> Optical photons are treated differently from the high energy
> photons and
> from the other particles: for example it is not possible
> to use
> them as
> primary particles nor it is possible to define them in a
> source.f
> routine and assign their energy.
>
> However, you can perhaps try a non-standard source_opt.f
> routine,
> as suggested in this old message in the forum:
>
> http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/3272.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/3272.html>
>
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/3272.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/3272.html>>
>
> This might suit your needs.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrea
>
>
> Il 21/02/2017 13:43, Віктор Родін ha scritto:
>
> Dear Andrea,
> Thank you for reply. I understand that we use OPT routines
> when wavelenth is varied. I have another question
> related to
> the production of photons . Is it possible to set the
> scintillation spectrum in FLUKA?The simplest way is
> setting of
> huge number of OPT-PROD cards with different % of dose for
> each energy. Do we have another way?
> Cheers,
> Viktor
>
> 2017-02-21 8:17 GMT+02:00 Andrea Fontana
> <andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>>
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>
>
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it
> <mailto:andrea.fontana_at_pv.infn.it>>>>:
>
>
> Dear Viktor,
> indeed data cards for optical photons allow to
> define the
> optical
> properties in materials and at boundaries only for
> specific
> frequencies, as you say, while user routines are more
> general and
> allow
> to give a more complete representation of the physical
> problem.
>
> For example, the refraction index can be defined
> with the
> OPT-PROP
> card for the central frequency that one has
> defined, but
> for an
> extended
> dispersion relation, one can use the routine RFRNDX
> implementing a
> function or interpolating a data array.
> The refraction index can also be varied with a
> region-based logic
> using
> the function OPHBDX. The same applies also to the
> other
> optical
> properties like absorption and diffusion coefficients.
>
> For a complete example, if you have not found it
> already,
> you can refer to this message by Giuseppe:
>
> http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html>
>
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html>>
>
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html>
>
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html
> <http://www.fluka.org/web_archive/earchive/new-fluka-discuss/7106.html>>>
>
> It well complements the information from the manual.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrea
>
>
> Il 18/02/2017 16:47, Віктор Родін ha scritto:
>
> Dear FLUKA users and experts,
> I'm working with optical photons in FLUKA and
> discover new
> details for myself in the process. Now I have
> a question
> connected with physics of the optical
> boundaries. Is it
> enough set reflectivity, absorption,
> diffusion and
> refractive coefficients in the OPT-PROP card for
> receiving of the truthful results in the region
> borders ?For what goals
> should we use OPT-routines, for example OPHBDX? I
> think that
> other OPT routines we use if wavelength isn't
> constant. Is it
> true?Could you explain me difference?
> Best regards,
> Viktor
>
>
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